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Update Nov. 28
This news came from Canada Free Press (thanks to Angela):
President-for-Life, King of the World paving the way for Messiaship
How ominous. I just wrote below that America through Obama is laying the red carpet for the Antichrist. Now he is depicted as the Messiah. Here’s an excerpt of the news:
Make way for the Messiah!
This apparently is the new mantra for these grotesque and hideous post-election times.
Barack Hussein Obama is not only not denying his Messiahship, he’s basking in the new role cast for him by gloating supporters.
At Sunday’s Soul Train awards, Obama was nominated as “Our Lord and Savior” by Oscar-winning actor/comedian Jamie Foxx, who was answered by a wildly cheering throng.
The YouTube showing the cheering throngs to Foxx’s naming Obama “Our Lord and Savior” was mysteriously removed from the Internet yesterday morning.
Today comes news of artist Michael D’Antuono’s painting of a smirking Obama hanging from a crucifix on display until Dec. 15 at Boston’s Bunker Hill Community College Art Gallery.
The painting, depicting Obama as Jesus Christ with a crown of thorns around his head and his arms outstretched like Christ himself when he was crucified, is Obama as Jesus Attempt Number Two.
D’Antuono calls his painting, “Truth”.
Is Obama the Antichrist? We don’t know for certain, but again as I said, he is a good and likely candidate. If the prophecy is correct that he is America’s last president before her fall, then the Antichrist, whether Obama or somebody else, will soon come out into the open.
This plays well into the visions I had last April. I mentioned somewhere that shortly after I saw the ‘Fallen Obama’ while still in prayer, I saw a man crowned and my daughter Angel said, “He is the 666 Man.” I could not see the face of the man as his head was bowed when the elegant crown was placed on his head. He was also wearing a royal robe.
Hours later I dreamed of the Lord appearing in the sky along with two angels on either side. His arms were outstretched to the healthy flock before Him.
I believe that the sequence of the visions and the dream is the sequence of what is coming. When America/Obama falls, then the Antichrist will be revealed. But for the believers who are watching and praying, the good news is after the Antichrist follows the coming of the Lord Jesus, the true Messiah.
Again, this is the time to seriously draw unto the Lord Jesus/Yeshua. Let’s get into the Ark as the Father is telling us. Our redemption is near but perilous times still lie ahead and we need to endure, thus, we must prepare our heart and spirit. Be not discouraged, just keep walking and trusting in Him for He has already overcome the world. We are overcomers in our Messiah Yeshua.
Isaiah 41:10 (CJB)
Don’t be afraid, for I am with you; don’t be distressed for I am your God. I give you strength, I give you help. I support you with my victorious right hand.
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I am supposed to publish a new article but the Lord instead prompted me to re-publish this and add the latest message. I understand that the Lord is confirming the message in this article when I had another vision of President Obama on the floor, this time, with his wife Michelle.
On Nov. 11 I was in my bed praying when this vision came. Briefly I saw distinguished men and women dancing in pairs when suddenly there was panic caused by fire or firing, then I saw Obama and his wife sprawling/crawling on the floor in fear.
The following day, Nov. 12, while in prayer the Lord dropped these words into my spirit: “Genesis 7” and “Jesus weeps.”
I checked Genesis 7 and all I could think of was “judgment.” On Nov. 14 while praying the Lord gave me this message, “It’s time to get into the ark.”
Genesis 7 begins with God telling Noah to come into the ark and concluded with the flood completely covering the earth which ended every form of life except those who were safe inside the ark.
7 (ii) Adonai said to Noach, “Come into the ark, you and all your household; for I have seen that you alone in this generation are righteous before me. 2 Of every clean animal you are to take seven couples, and of the animals that are not clean, one couple; 3 also of the birds in the air take seven couples — in order to preserve their species throughout the earth. 4 For in seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights; I will wipe out every living thing that I have made from the face of the earth.” 5 Noach did all that Adonai ordered him to do.
6 Noach was 600 years old when the water flooded the earth. 7 Noach went into the ark with his sons, his wife and his sons’ wives, because of the floodwaters. 8 Of clean animals, of animals that are not clean, of birds, and of everything that creeps on the ground, 9 couples, male and female, went in to Noach in the ark, as God had ordered Noach.
10 After seven days the water flooded the earth. 11 On the seventeenth day of the second month of the 600th year of Noach’s life all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of the sky were opened. 12 It rained on the earth forty days and forty nights.
13 On that same day Noach entered the ark with Shem, Ham and Yefet the sons of Noach, Noach’s wife and the three wives of his sons accompanying them; 14 they, and every animal of every species, all the livestock of every species, every animal that creeps on the ground of every species, and every bird of every species — all sorts of winged creatures. 15 They went in to Noach in the ark, couples from every kind of living thing that breathes. 16 Those that entered went in, male and female, from every kind of living being, as God had ordered him; and Adonai shut him inside.
(iii) 17 The flood was forty days on the earth; the water grew higher and floated the ark, so that it was lifted up off the earth. 18 The water overflowed the earth and grew deeper, until the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 The water overpowered the earth mightily; all the high mountains under the entire sky were covered; 20 the water covered the mountains by more than twenty-two-and-a-half feet. 21 All living beings that moved on the earth perished — birds, livestock, other animals, insects, and every human being, 22 everything in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life; whatever was on dry land died. 23 He wiped out every living thing on the surface of the ground — not only human beings, but livestock, creeping animals and birds in the air. They were wiped out from the earth; only Noach was left, along with those who were with him in the ark. 24 The water held power over the earth for 150 days.
As I have written originally, the vision of the fallen Obama represents also the fall of America. When Obama was re-elected and is back in the White House, the Lord said, “It’s time to mourn” as I have written in “Obama’s Re-election: A Time to Mourn”. Then as I mentioned above, the Lord gave me the words “Gen. 7” and “Jesus weeps.” Is the Lord weeping for the soon destruction of America while too many people still are not ready and not paying attention? What about the other nations?
I believe that America is only the beginning. When she falls the world will be left in a vacuum. What great timing and opportunity is there for the ‘Antichrist,’ the ‘Son of Perdition,’ the ‘Man of Lawlessness’ to appear than when America, the world’s leader, disappears? America under the leadership of Obama with all his ungodly policies is actually laying down the red carpet for the Antichrist. The Lord Jesus warned us that these things must take place before He comes again; and He said in Matthew 24: 37-39 that when He comes it will be as in the days of Noah.
37 For the Son of Man’s coming will be just as it was in the days of Noach. 38 Back then, before the Flood, people went on eating and drinking, taking wives and becoming wives, right up till the day Noach entered the ark; 39 and they didn’t know what was happening until the Flood came and swept them all away. It will be just like that when the Son of Man comes.
When America meets her ultimate judgment, it will be as in the days of Noah. People are oblivious as in my vision of the ‘train hitting an oblivious man.’ Until then, so many Americans and the nations looking up to America still believe that some good things may yet take place for the nation and the world. How sad.
The Lord says, “It’s time to get into the ark.” When Noah built the ark on top of the mountain, people mocked and ridiculed him, perhaps even until the time he and his family entered the ark. But then the Lord shut the ark and poured out his wrath upon the wicked world.
Now the Lord is telling us, It’s time to get into the ark.” Certainly there is no safest place than in the ‘Ark’ when the flood of YHWH’s judgment comes. But the ark today is not the kind which Noah built. Our Ark is Jesus/Yeshua the Messiah who paid with His precious blood the sins of men. Jesus weeps as He sees the time drawing close and He is still knocking, knocking and knocking in every person’s heart; and He is constantly refused and rejected. In the time of Noah only 8 people were saved from the flood. How many will enter the ark and be saved this time?
It’s time to get into the ark. It’s time to lay down everything and submit to the Lord Jesus. It’s time to look up to YHWH and not unto men. No world leader is able to save anyone from what is coming into the world. Those who continue to trust and hope that the next leader may be the best one to save America and the world from sinking will not be able to discern the Antichrist when he comes, for certainly he comes as one who offers hope and peace and unity. Isn’t that what the world is clamoring today? If the people of God will not wake up and stop looking as the world looks, how can they know that the next one is the Antichrist. What if Obama is the Antichrist? He is a good candidate, but do all Christians consider it? And if Christians cannot imagine it, how can they possibly recognize this “son of perdition” until it is too late? So many oblivious Christians think that the Antichrist is ye into a distant future. Are you not seeing the signs? We are in the last days of the last days.
When God told Noah to enter the ark, the rain began to fall immediately as Noah and his family were settled and secured inside the ark. Now that God is telling us that it’s time to get into the ark, isn’t He saying, “There is no more time. I will pour out the rain of judgment as soon as you’re settled in the ark(?)” Recall that it was YHWH who shut the ark, not Noah. There is a time when the Lord shuts the door of grace and you won’t able to get in anymore. Now is the time while the Ark is open to receive those who would come in. It’s time to receive Jesus/Yeshua into your life and let Him be your Lord and King. It’s time to be safe in the Ark of YHWH and escape the wrath of His judgment.
Love in Yeshua,
Cynthia
Please see also:
http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/jeremiah-7-america-its-all-over-a-dream/
http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/peace-is-dead.html
http://sharetestimonies.blogspot.com/2012/11/worldly-peace-vs-yahweys-peace.html
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Originally written and published on Sept. 15, 2012
As I mentioned in my last article, as the Lord wills, I will publish the vision I had of the “Fallen Obama” I received months ago, of which He said also represents the “Fall of America.” This afternoon the Lord gave me the ‘go ahead’ as He opened my eyes to its full meaning.
The vision was brief but profound. On the evening of April 19 this year, around 10:45 while in bed and praying, I saw Obama down with a brace on his neck and was trying hard to rise up. The expression on his face was of pain and anger. He looked so enraged and in much pain as he tried to get up from the fallen state, but could not.
The vision so struck me that I paused my prayer and thought that he might get sick or meet an accident. When I shared the vision with Brother Carlos (http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/), he reminded me not to forget its spiritual implication. So I sought the Lord about the meaning of the vision; and He brought my attention to Psalm 75:5, from the Amplified Bible:
Lift not up your [aggressive] horn on high, speak not with a stiff neck and insolent arrogance.
The brace on Obama’s neck meant ‘stiff neck’ and insolent arrogance. I could still imagine the expression on his face which obviously showed his arrogance despite the fall. And here’s Carlos’ comment:
That’s a great catch on the “stiff neck”. God frequently refers to His backslidden people and unbelievers as stiff necked when they are spiritually blinded by pride. Obama is about the proudest person I have ever observed; perhaps the proudest. Pride before the fall . . .”
This vision has kept coming over especially since July. The Lord constantly reminded me that Obama’s fallen state represents likewise America’s fall. For the past months I kept praying for the full meaning of this vision and its implication to America.
Since my vision of a train hitting an oblivious man that represents America’s destruction, the Lord kept bringing me to the passage in Jeremiah 50: 17-18. This afternoon as I opened my Bible, alas I saw the words again, and this time, it was like flakes fell from my eyes and I saw the answer to my long time question, “how is Obama’s fall becomes America’s fall?”
Jeremiah 50:17-18 (CJB):
Israel is a stray lamb, driven away by lions. First to devour him was Ashur’s king; and the last to break his bones is this Nevukhadretzar, king of Bavel.”
Therefore Adonai- Tzvaot, the God of Israel says: “I will punish the king of Bavel and his land as I punish the king of Ashur.
Jeremiah 50:17-18 (KJV)
Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones.
Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria.
Is Obama “Nebuchadrezzar” as America is Babylon? If one is watching the developments on the issue of Israel, America and Iran, it is very obvious that Obama is acting in the spirit of the King of Ancient Babylon, one who is breaking Israel’s bone. He is the most anti-Israel that America has ever produced as president.
This revelation makes sense. America’s fall is fast happening. To make things clearer, let me share the words and the visions I received just a few days ago.
(Note that I am praying and interceding daily for America as the Lord gave me this assignment early this year. It was in my prayer time that the Lord spoke to my spirit that the next prayer and ministry focus would be America. That was even before I began receiving visions and hearing messages about the nation; and before I created this blog. Prior to that my revelations were mostly about Israel and my country, the Philippines).
On September 9, two days after I published my vision of America’s destruction, I asked the Lord in prayer if Obama would keep the presidency. I received the following messages one at a time while drowsing to sleep.
Abortion will be at its peak. They will be aborting more life from the womb.
America is destroyed!
She was a light but her light no longer shines.
Two nights later, September 11, while praying I again heard “She was a light but her light no longer shines,” seeing at the same time a lamp without light. There was an attempt to light up the lamp but the oil was totally depleted that it was impossible to light it up again.
Will Obama be re-elected? I do not know, but the message above could be a clue. It is also important to note that right after my vision of the ‘train and the oblivious man,’ I saw Obama and heard ‘Obamacare.’ This could mean one thing. Obama with his policies is directly involved in bringing about America’s destruction.
Yesterday morning, September 14, I woke up to see Obama quoting the words in Isaiah 9:10 which says:
“The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with cut stone; the sycamore-fig trees have been chopped down, but we will replace them with cedars.” (CJB)
Needless to say that Isaiah 9:10 is an expression of rebellion towards God which Obama actually quoted. This also explains the “stiff neck” meaning of the vision of the fallen Obama; and I doubt if there’s one adult American who has not heard of “The Harbingers” and “Isaiah 9:10 documentary.”
Where does America stand today? The Lord declared “America is destroyed!” It is sealed. What do we see in the news? US embassies are under attack. US Ambassador to Libya was deliberately liquidated by the Al-Qaeda group on America’s most memorable day, September 11. It is also the 9/11 event that made the leaders of America quote and hold on to Isaiah 9:10.
If Israel is God’s last straw that keeps Him from pouring His judgment upon America-Babylon, then Obama is actually making it happen soon and fast with his attitude towards His land and people. The timing of the attacks on the US Embassies is very ominous as Obama’s hatred against Israel is loud and clear nowadays. If the embassies are extensions of the nation’s territory, when will these attacks come to the mainland?
Violence against the US continues; and here is the latest news from Debkafile:
At Least 4 Casualties in Al Qaeda Attack on US-led peacekeeping mission
Brothers and sisters, after spending time daily in prayer for America, I know in my spirit that God’s judgment upon the land cannot be turned away anymore. My prayer is for everyone to come to Him in repentance for He is still waiting; but His waiting will not last forever. Time is running out. The train that I saw was very close by that again it looked impossible for the man to turn around and avoid it. If the man was America, then it is now late for the nation to turn away from God’s righteous judgment, but as individual, you still have today; and today can be your last chance to come to the merciful God, repent and be saved. Receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior if you have not done yet. If you are a believer who turned away from the path now is your chance to return to Him and re-commit your precious life to the Father.
Isaiah 55:6-7
Seek Adonai while He is available.
Call on Him while He is still nearby.
Let the wicked person abandon His way
and the evil person his thoughts;
let him return to Adonai,
and He will have mercy on him;
let him return to God,
for He will freely forgive.
Praying for you in Yeshua’s Name,
Cynthia
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Please read:
The Vision: The Trigger
http://www.prayersforthepeople.com/id135.html
A Red Line Once Spared a Harlot
The Trumpet Sound 
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Amen Cynthia. Unfortunately I think that while the majority of folks in America realize that our potus is an imposter: he is muslim, their beliefs approve of lying. Most fail to see that it is YAHWEY that allowed him to be in office. O is mearly a symbol of the destruction of our country: from the “head”, down. In an even stronger sense, I think what Christians need to realiize is that the governments of the world will never attain to YAHWEY’s kingdom.
You’re right, Deirdre, Obama symbolizes America in many ways.
My wife, a couple years ago, saw this coming. She saw that the US has rejected God and sought a “king” like everyone else has. And the warning God gave to Samuel to tell Israel rings true now:
1 Kings 8:10-18
9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.”
10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle[b] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the Lord will not answer you in that day.”
Thanks brother Dan, for this very important message. God bless.
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This attached video might just help others understand the context of the message of God for America. It clearly shows and explains where America is now – spiritually and morally. It also mentions of a vision where the sea receded so fast and never returned yet and exposing so much trash on the exposed shorelines.
Thank you brother for sharing the video.
I urge everyone, please watch…
Very good post. America’s sin put Obama in power. We get what we deserve; our sin will find us out.
“Obama Will Leave the White House”
http://tim-shey.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-will-leave-white-house.html
Tim
How do you know that BO will leave the White House? You said you had a dream that Mitt Romney would win the election but instead BO won. That dream did not come to pass which says that the dream was not of God.
I still believe the dream about Mitt Romney was from the Lord. And the dream about Barack Obama leaving the White House I also believe was from the Lord. What if Romney runs for President in 2016? I thought the Romney dream meant the 2008 Election–so I was definitely wrong there. Sometimes these dreams don’t come to pass till much later than we thought.
Correction: I meant the 2012 Presidential Election.
Tim
Tim
Many believers are saying that they are having dreams and visions from God about the fate of America. Many of them agree with each other while others are saying the opposite. Both can’t be right.
The messages that you get are in opposition to what Cynthia is getting.
God knows the future. If He is the author of the dreams and visions of everyone then there would be consistancy. But obviously there is not. So some of the dreams and visions are not of God but of the evil one.
How does a believer really know for sure that what they are getting is really from God?
The dream needs to bear witness with their spirit.
Thanks brother. When the nation sins grievously the Lord gives her a wicked leader, usually to call her attention to return to Him. I just pray that Obama’s leadership has by this time brought many (especially the Christians) to realize the spiritual condition of America and caused people to repent, individually and corporately.
The vision may also mean Obama’s term as president is over. Try as he may, the Lord may have decided to get him out of the White House. This brings to mind my vision about a month ago. I was praying when I heard in my spirit “Washington DC,” then I saw Romney and simultaneously heard, “and they voted.”
everything here is the TRUTH, but I must make one thing clear. when the LORD speaks of israel in the end of days HE is not speaking of the land in the middle east!
he is speaking of a people who seek after HIS TRUTH, the ISRAEL of GOD or SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. this euniqe group of people is NOT the jews. it is the remnant of GOD the CHRISTIANS!!!
you are correct in stateing obama is against US, he is a middle of the road LUKE WARM luciferian trying to do and end around GOD. trying to become GOD!
he very well might be the finnal anti- christ but like judas iscariot the spirit of satan does not endwell in him untill the last minute when he places his head on CHRISTS bossom. then rats him out for 30 pieces of silver.
so if obama is the last anti-christ we will know before the 4years is up. there is much more to be said abou this but I do not want to take up to much of your forum.
GOD BLESS you all!!! amen
Brother John, I fully respect your views but may I just humbly disagree with you as my brother in the Lord on just one important issue – your views about ISRAEL. Whenever God mentioned Israel in the Bible, either by Himself or through His prophets and servants, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament, God always refers to ISRAEL as Jacob, or the descendants of Jacob who are now called Israelis or Jews, and the Land of Israel in the Middle East which was taken back by the LORD ALMIGHTY from the use and enjoyment of the Caananites being the Lord, Owner and Creator of everything and gave that to Israel as He promised to Abraham.
We, Christ-believing Christians, are those wild olive shoots (Gentile or non-descendants-of-Jacob believers) that are grafted in to the cultivated olive tree (Israel). And God made sure that this issue is made very clear in ROMANS 11 (NIV1984), otherwise we might boast.
Paul in Romans 11:1-2 said: “1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—…?”
He further reinforced it in Romans 11:11-12 when he said: “11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!”
Paul even used strong words just to emphasize and make sure that we the Gentile believer will have the right perspective and not be led otherwise when Paul said in Romans 111:17-20: “17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.”
Jesus is The Truth and He is The Word. There is no ambiguity in Him.
There is a great danger when we add words or superimpose our human ideas and interpretations over and above the Word of God and His original intents and meaning. God Himself, through John, made sure that we are forewarned of this through REVELATIONS 22:18-19 “18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.”
ISRAEL is the same Israel that God meant – that piece of real estate flowing with milk and honey in the Middle East that God has given to the descendants of Jacob whom God called ISRAEL.
If in many instances we the Christ-believing Christians find ourselves in some unique circumstances that parallel with what ISRAEL had been through as mentioned in the Bible or those which Israel is going through right now in these Last Days, it is because we now live with ISRAEL as one, drawing from the same nourishing sap.
And there should be no doubt because ultimately all ISRAEL will be saved, said Paul in Romans 11:25-27 “25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
A Covenant is different from a Contract, because the Contract will continue to be in effect so long as all the contracting parties are alive or are faithfully delivering what is required of them in the Contract.
A Covenant, however, remains in effect so long as just ONE of the Covenanting Parties is alive, and regardless if the other covenanting party is faithful to the requirements of the Covenant or not.
Halleluiah because God is alive and He is Eternal, and He being the LIVING ONE covenanting party ensuring that that Covenant is forever in effect, and regardless of our unfaithfulness to the terms and conditions of the Covenant (The Law), He being the faithful One, covenant-keeping God that He is, came down in human flesh and form and took the role of humanity (the unfaithful, non covenant-keeping party) and suffered and paid for the penalties specified in the Covenant in case of default (sin) so that we might become right again before God and be restored before God and enjoy His fellowship again and reap again all the benefits of the Covenants, at the expense of the humiliation and the bruised body and the death of Jesus Christ our Lord who suffered the wages of sin. God is our Saviour! (Psalm 25:5)
God is so wonderful and so amazing, He deserves our worship and adoration. He is more than just a great Hero!
Thank you Totie, you answered John in a way which I would also have answered him for the Lord led me to the same verses you mentioned. But now I may just add that the remnants of God are both Jews and Gentiles who receive and believe and love the same Messiah- Jesus Christ to the Christians and Yeshua/Yahshua HaMashiach to the Jews. The Messianic Jews like the early disciples and apostles of the Lord Jesus/Yeshua are still in existence today, in fact, they are growing in numbers.
When Jesus said in John 10:16, “Also I have other sheep which are not from this pen…” He was actually referring to us gentiles who received Him as our Lord. We don’t originally belong to the pen of God’s covenant people Israel. Then He went on to say, “I need to bring them, and they will hear my voice; and there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Now He is referring to both Jews and gentiles as one flock under one shepherd who is no other but Him.
As for today’s Israel, the nation itself is a testimony of God’s faithfulness to His covenant. The creation/establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 is actually the fulfillment of Isaiah 66:8 which says, Whoever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Is a country born in one day? Is a nation brought forth all at once? For as soon as Tziyon went into labor, she brought forth her children.
The fact that the very tiny nation and people not only survived but thrived to this day in the midst of its hostile neighbors is enough reason to believe that God is behind it all. I love what David said in Psalm 124:3 because it is very true of Israel today:
Psalm 124:1-3
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
124 (0) A song of ascents. By David:
(1) If Adonai hadn’t been for us —
let Isra’el repeat it —
2 If Adonai hadn’t been for us
when people rose to attack us,
3 then, when their anger blazed against us,
they would have swallowed us alive!
Jeremiah 31:33-37 speak of God’s faithful covenant for Israel.
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
33 (34) No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, ‘Know Adonai’; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.”
34 (35) This is what Adonai says,
who gives the sun as light for the day,
who ordained the laws for the moon and stars
to provide light for the night,
who stirs up the sea until its waves roar —
Adonai-Tzva’ot is his name:
35 (36) “If these laws leave my presence,” says Adonai,
“then the offspring of Isra’el will stop being
a nation in my presence forever.”
36 (37) This is what Adonai says:
“If the sky above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth be fathomed,
then I will reject all the offspring of Isra’el
for all that they have done,” says Adonai.
Only when the laws governing the sun, the moon and the stars leave His presence will the offspring of Israel stop being a nation in His presence forever. And has anyone measured the sky and fathomed the foundations of the earth? That’s the only time when the Lord will reject the offspring of Israel for all that they have done.
Blessings in Yeshua HaMashiach,
Cynthia
I think your vision and the meaning of it is that the tribulation is about to start and we need to get ourselves right with God, to share the gospel with as many as God gives us so they too can be saved, and to be prepared for persecution.
If America is indeed Babylon, and I am not completely sure that it is, then it won’t be destroyed until near the end of the great tribulation.
I think BO is the last ‘President’ of America. I say ‘President’ because he is not constitutionally qualified to hold the office of President because he is not a natural born citizen of the USA which is required to hold that office. He was born in Kenya.
There are people in America who are talking about giving BO a 3rd term. This is, of course, impossible because the Constitution only allows for a person to hold the office of president for two terms.
However, I preceive that things will get real bad in America, BO will decalre marshall law, suspend the constitution and the congress, and set himself up as a dictator. If this happens then he would be our president until the end.
Hi Pat,
Thank you for reading and for this comment.
I highly recommend you to read Brother Carlos blog and spend sometime reading his writings:
http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/america-the-burning-mountain-biblical-evidence-for-babylons-fall-at-the-second-trumpet/
I agree with you that the vision/message may mean that we are entering into tribulation and so we are to truly get serious now with our relationship with God. You may as well check my latest update on this article above.
Blessings,
Cynthia
Cynthia: I just posted this earlier today. Just thought you would like to read it.
“King Ahab, King Jehoiakim and Barack Obama”
Thanks Tim. I read the article, and you’re right, there is no protection in the White House, in fact, as I shared in one post, I saw it as “black” like a haunted house. So I call it the “black” White House. What can be expected of it when the President is under a satanic anointing indeed.
Please read also the update on this article. God bless…
Cynthia
Cynthia
I read Carlos’ article. I still am not entirely convinced that America is Babylon the Great. If she is then BO will be successful economically until the end, our resourses (food, comodies, and etc) will be of abundance, BO will be killed in a war on America but will come back to life, Christians and others who refuse to take the mark of the beast will be killed, and etc until Babylon is destroyed near the end of the great tribulation. I envision America continuing to be under God’s judgment and suffering destruction through war, storms, famine, flood, earthquakes, and etc. that will wipe us out financially. But I don’t really know.
If America continues to be under God’s judgment that wipes us out financially then how can she meet the criteria of the description of Babylon in the Bible? I don’t think she can and that is why I question whether or not America is Babylon.
Cynthia, If America is wiped out or destroyed before too much longer, as your dreams and visions suggest, then it is impossible for America to be Babylon. If America’s destruction is soon then another kingdom would rise up to take its place and that kingdom, I believe at this time, would become Babylon. Really don’t know.
If America is truly Babylon then BO and America won’t be destroyed until near the end of the great tribulation which, in my way of measuring time, isn’t for quite awhile (maybe 6 or so yrs from now).
Hi Pat,
The destruction of Babylon marks the beginning of the tribulation, not the end of it. Carefully read Revelations again, asking the Holy Spirit to guide you in understanding. Carlos also suggests the following Scriptures to help you understand that America is Babylon: Isaiah 13/14/18/21/47 and Jeremiah 50/51.
Here is also another article he wrote about the identity of Babylon in Revelations: https://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/the-colors-worn-and-adorned-by-the-harlot-of-revelation/
Also in the following article, there’s a discussion between Carlos and one reader who was not certain about America as Babylon which may answer your questions too.
http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/romneys-victory-speech-the-writing-on-the-wall/
Here’s also a Bibliography of books and references pointing America as Babylon which Carlos wrote: http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-bibliography-america-as-end-times-babylon-part-i-the-books/
Are you familiar with Dumitru Duduman? Here’s his prophetic message for America as Babylon which he received back in 1984:
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_1.php
http://watch.prayerforallpeople.com/america-is-babylon-dumitru-duduman/
End Times Forecaster also sees America as Babylon:
http://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2010/03/america-is-end-times-babylon.html
Drew Simmons is another author/blogger who has studied and written extensively about America as Babylon: http://wakeupbabylon.blogspot.com/2010/08/who-is-babylon.html
I pray that you will be enlightened as you read these and pray earnestly over the matter.
Blessings in Yeshua,
Cynthia
Cynthia,
I disagree with you that the destruction of Babylon marks the beginning of the tribulation because of Rev 18:24.
America may be Babylon the Great, I don’t know, but she does not meet all of the description of Babylon the Great at this time. Though I won’t say that in the future she will not. I just don’t know.
Carlos’ stuff is mainly the writings of other people. When he gets into saying stuff like the martyers of the fifith seal are aborted babies, which is his opinion, he is out to lunch.
I went to the websites you mention here and at other places on your other articles. One thing I noticed was that though they agree on some/many points they differ on others. If God is giving them visions, dreams, and messages then they would be saying the same thing but they are not. They all claim that they got their stuff from God. If that is the case then God doesn’t know what the future is.
Yes, America will be destroyed because of her iniquities like the shedding of innocent blood (abortion) and its sexual immorality. We read in the Bible where God destroyed nations over such iniquities. America will be no different.
But to say America is Babylon the Great I can’t say and I am not entirely convinced at this time that she is though she may be.
Cynthia,
What Tim Shey is getting from the Lord is opposite to what you are getting. According to Tim Shey and his dreams BO will resign from office, Biden will take over, and Romney will be elected President in 2016.
Your dreams say that Obama is the last President and he will fall and America will go with him You both can’t be right. Either you are right or Tim is right.
I asked this question of Tim Shey and I will now ask you, “How does a believer really know for sure that what they are getting is really from God?”
Pat
Hi Pat,
As to the dream question, please note that dreams can be literal or spiritual and symbolic, or both . My vision of the fallen Obama is either physical or spiritual or it is both. Tim’s dream of Obama resigning may also be spiritual and symbolic. As to Tim’s dream of Romney (and by the way, he corrected himself to mean 2012 not 2016), it’s similar to my vision of Romney which I never had been dogmatic about. There is a reason for him to not win the election. The election turned out the way it did for God’s greater purpose.
How can we know the dream is from the Lord? The Holy Spirit bears witness as Tim said. One who walks in the Spirit knows.
Blessings,
Cynthia
Correction:Tim was making a presumption not conclusion that Romney may run in 2016. Perhaps, if there’s yet going to be an election? We don’t know at this time. Let His will be done.
Hi Cynthia
I believe now that BO and America will fall as well as the rest of the nations in the world. Out of its ashes will arise the one world govenment that has a new currency and a leader who will control the world.
America’s fall is partly because we shed the blood of the innocent (abortion). Babylon the Great described in Revelation falls partly because of the shedding of the blood of the saints.
I do not believe that America is Babylon the Great mentioned in Revelation. However, I will say that America is Babylon like and our leader is anti-christ like and our leader gives us a glimpse of what the Revelation anti-christ will be like.
Cynthia
Taken from http://www.carpenterstouch.cor
A Word from the Lord
Understanding Babylon’s Mysteries
“There are mysteries that are being unlocked now in Genesis, Isaiah, Daniel and in the book of Revelations and many more. Learn to know about the times you live in. The importance of this knowledge will soon uncover great keys that are necessary for you to know how to overcome. You must study to know about the system of Babylon in the past, present and what is to come. UNDERSTAND THAT BABYLON WAS A SYSTEM MADE UP BY MAN TO BUILD, ACHIEVE, AND EXCEL WITHOUT ME. My word will help you understand that a system without God (me) is a mere reflection of the world system today. WHEN I AM REMOVED FROM THAT PROCESS THEN DESTRUCTION IS ENEVITABLE AND ITS FUTURE PROGRESS IS ONLY TEMPORAL. ALSO KNOW THAT EVERY WORK OF EVIL HAS AN APPOINTED TIME TO END.” [Caps are mine]
I don’t believe that America is the Babylon mentioned in Revelation. Though we are a wealthy nation our leader is not the ruler of the world plus the shedding of innocent blood is only of unborn fetuses. The babylon in Revelation is certaintly weathy but its leader rules the nations of the world plus he sheds the blood of the saints.
As I understand it, the visions/dreams/prophecies given to the saints about the fall of America and its leader is because of abortion, homosexuality, and the cursing of Israel by requiring that she give up land for peace. These visions/dreams/prophecies makes no mention of her falling based on the shedding of innocent blood of the saints. There is a big difference between shedding of innocent blood of the unborn and the shedding of the innocent blood of the saints.
I believe that America is Babylon like and her leader is anti-christ like as many nations and their leaders have been before her but I do not believe that she is the Babylon mentioned in Revelation. America and her leader’s fall is inline with how God judges nations who rebel against Him.
Ooops
The above link should be http://www.carpenterstouch.org
Correction to
“The babylon in Revelation is certaintly weathy but its leader rules the nations of the world plus he sheds the blood of the saints.”
I want to say
“The babylon in Revelation is certaintly weathy but its leader rules the nations of the world plus he sheds the blood of the saints before he and his nation are destroyed.”
[Sorry about the additional posts. I wish there was an edit function.]
Hi Pat,
The best way to clear your doubts is bring them to the Lord for He is the One who can make things clear to you. The Holy Spirit is our greatest teacher and revealer of things beyond our human reasoning.
As for Carlos’ writings, you should read his earliest articles from the start of the blog. He is certainly not writing only on the writings of others. He knows his calling and understands very well what he is writing independent of the others.
As for the disagreements of the different authors, it is always normal for people to have different views in some details but that is not enough reason to invalidate the truth that America is end times Babylon as they see it. It’s not also correct to say that God does not know the future because of the diversity of opinions on some details. Remember that God doesn’t reveal everything to one person or that would puff him up and he wouldn’t need to seek Him continually if he already knows everything. When God gives us something, we do not presume it is everything but it is enough to guide us into the next revelation that he would give in His time and discretion as we continue to abide in Him and seek Him.
Whether or not you agree that America is Babylon, at least you understand that America will be destroyed because of her many sins. But nations beware, the Lord is judging the whole world because of sins.
Shalom,
Cynthia
The destruction could be a spiritual reality. Think, ‘hidden in plain sight’. Everything looks ok, but in ‘spiritual reality’ many have died a spiritual death. The same is true with abortion. No one can ‘see’ the baby; it is destroyed in ‘secret’. The perception of the carnal mind is so corrupt that it cannot see the destruction and death, even if one is looking at an aborted child. Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
I can’t remember which Planned Pregnancy President quoted this, but she said, “Not all women perceive a fetus as a child”. Well….”perception is everything” quote the basketball stars for Sprite. I am so glad that someone perceived black people as persons!! (By the way that PP president was a black woman) Oh the confusion!!
Come quickly King Yahshua! Amen!
Hi Cynthia,
If you haven’t heard, it’s with a sad heart that I bear news that Glynda has suffered a stroke and is critical. She needs our prayers and intercession desperately. As the time approaches the enemy is working very hard to kill those that serve the Lord, God. I, personally had a desperate time two weeks ago and even worse a year and a half ago. God is raising up His army, expect the darts of the enemy.
Dan
Hi Dan,
Yes I heard of Glynda’s condition and I have been praying since the news came early yesterday. I am not surprised. We’re all going to be attacked one way or another. About 3 weeks ago I also experienced spiritual attack but praise God, I passed the test and got over it.
In a few hours Super Storm Pablo will hit our place. The power has been fluctuating and actually cut off for a few hours while the storm hasn’t hit us yet. It is expected that during the storm we’ll really have no power anymore. Praise God I’m able to answer you but will have to sign off now as we need to prepare.
God bless brother and thanks for praying for us. You’re in my prayers too, as everyone else in this blog.
Shalom in Yeshua,
Cynthia
Dan, during my struggle the Lord gave me the message that the enemy has unleashed his fury thus we must expect to meet more battles ahead. The confusion and persecution even among the Body of Christ will continue to increase and abound, thus, it is imperative that we must be vigilant in prayer and be alert and watchful all the time. Above all, we must draw near to Him every single day and should learn to hear Him clearly as it is the only way to avoid being deceived. Yes, the enemy will throw things our way that will cause us to doubt but we must not give in. It is all the more necessary to get closer to our Savior and be led of the Holy Spirit so that we won’t fall. We cannot, on our own, understand fully the things in the spirit unless the Holy Spirit gives us the discernment. Praise God, He is more than willing to give us wisdom to understand if we seek and ask Him.
Let us abide in the Lord for it is only in abiding in Him will we know His voice in the midst of confusion. Let us continue to uphold one another in prayer. Let us continue to intercede for all the brethren that we may all be found faithful till the end.
Love in Yeshua,
Cynthia
FATHER YAHWEY, praying in KING YAHSHUA’s name and asking please protect and bless Cynthia, her family and Jessica and her family and all Your children. Amen.
Hi Deirdre,
Thank you so much for the prayer. The storm was not as bad in our place as we thought; and praise God, the sun is now shining here.
Shalom,
Cynthia
Praise to Jesus. The benefit of living in the shadow of His wings. 🙂
Amen, brother! Praise God indeed…
All the nations of the world are under God’s judgment and are falling. What is the purpose of the fall of America and its leader? Is it to bring about out of its ashes a new world order/goverment, a new world currency, and a new world religion? Who will be the leader of the new world government? Where will be the seat of his authority? Will it be America and its current leader? Or will it be the EU and some leader within who already, through its symbols, declare themselves to be Babylon with a woman riding a beast statue and a picture of the ancient tower of babel to depict what they are wanting to achieve; world control?
I personally don’t know at this time. I think that God has only given us prophecy regarding the demise of the nations of the earth that preceeds the one world government and its leader that is described for us in Revelation.
No prophecy given to date that I am aware us fits the description of the one world government and its demise given in the Book of Revelation.
oops…..
I meant to say in my last statement above
No nation to date nor prohecy for that nation to date fits the desciption of the one world government, it leader, and it demise given in the book of Revelation.
Hi Pat,
It’s 1:00 a.m in my place now. I have worked the whole day on the visions I’ve had which are just about the New World, America and the Church, but sadly, twice I lost the final article while saving and trying to publish it. Twice I had to go back to the last available draft which is only half of the final article. This is certainly the work of the enemy. He has been distracting me in so many ways but I must persist as the Lord showed me in four successive dreams in Jan 13, 15, 16 and 18. I need to pray about this and truly I appreciate your prayers too. I may just rest now and work again tomorrow.
Thank you for the comment. I hope the visions I am writing about will answer some if not all of your questions. God bless…
Cynthia
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That is really one of the most vile pictures I have ever seen!
Yes, indeed it is. Thank you, brother, for reading and sharing your thought.
In Yeshua,
Cynthia
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‘This could mean one thing. Obama with his policies is directly involved in bringing about America’s destruction.’
How true this is.